Show Notes
Episode 65. Grief & Glory Through Infertility
Episode 65. Grief & Glory Through Infertility
"If in spite of everything God does not give them children, they should not regard themselves as being thwarted. They should be happy, discovering in this very fact God's will for them. ... There is, then, no reason for feeling they are failures or for giving way to sadness."
~ St. Josemaría Escrivá
Is God present in infertility?
How do I deal with the sadness & anger of losing a dream?
When I feel like I don't fit in, what do I do?
In this profoundly moving episode of This Whole Life, Kenna and Pat delve into the delicate and deep topic of infertility. They engage in heartfelt conversations with three couples who each share their unique and intimate journeys through infertility. Through candid stories of struggle, hope, and healing, the couples reveal how their experiences have shaped their relationships with one another and with God, how they navigate cultural expectations, and how they have developed emotional and mental resilience. This compelling episode sheds light on the realities of infertility, offering insights into how these couples have found support and love amidst their trials. Whether journeying through infertility or seeking to support those who are, you will discover profound lessons about life, love, and the reality of redemption in the midst of suffering.
Show Notes
“We're not gonna have kids when we can't have our own kids, which, you know, there was there's a a real mourning there because especially get coming in and even with that maybe getting married and you have this vision for what your life's gonna look like, and you're like, we're gonna have this beautiful family, and we're gonna have all sorts of kids running around, and we're gonna homeschool, and, you know, we're gonna raise them in this way. And even even things like, you know, what traditions do we wanna set up around Christmas for our family, or where are we gonna go on vacation together? And when you're not able to have your own kids, all of that just sort of, like, disappears, and it just, like, kinda slips away really quickly.” ~ Zach
“...the Lord was like, you signed up for marriage. You signed up in partnership together to be to be fruitful. And that's still here, and that's still present, and that's still part of the future that I have for you. ~ Zach & Teresa
“I just needed to cry because I was sad and mad and hurt and lost. And me also just sometimes allowing Steve to be angry about it because I didn't want him to be angry, but sometimes he had to be.” ~ Annie
“…the cross is always gonna bear fruit. It can. It will. I mean, that's God's plan. Mhmm. If we assent assent to it, and and Christ's yoke is the easy yoke. Right? It's meant to the yoke is meant to help us shoulder the burdens of life. It's not meant to tie us down if we go with Christ's yoke.” ~ Eric
“I think the piece that I didn't realize that would be helpful to know that is, like, normal and okay is the, like, random things that, like, bring out sadness. I think an example for me is, like, when I see Zach playing with kids. Sometimes that'll just, like, make me really sad, or, like, the sometimes the the lies that the evil one will tell me of being, like well, I think one, especially for me, was that I wouldn't be a good mom.” ~ Teresa
“…verbalizing those [false, self-critical thoughts] to your spouse is so helpful, because they can be the voice to refute that. Because it's hard to do that for yourself. And it's hard to, like, combat some of those lies and some of those sadness and some of those, like, triggers on your own. Say it out loud, and it, like, loses half of its power.” ~ Teresa
“…it's this a moment when my heart was broken and healed at the same time. And I don't know what to do with that sometimes.” ~ Lori
“In love he destined us for adoption to himself through Jesus Christ, in accord with the favor of his will, for the praise of the glory of his grace that he granted us in the beloved.”
Ephesians 1:4-6
“Talk to your priest. Talk to your family. Talk to your spouse.” ~ Annie
“His plan is good, and he's delivered, and he's trustworthy. And his plan for me is good even if it's different than what I expected.” ~ Teresa
“…being honest with yourself and boundaries are so good, but boundaries that still maintain community and connection and intimacy with people and not shutting those down. So practically, that can look different for everybody. But for me, that was so important is knowing myself well enough to know what what do these boundaries need to be and how can I communicate them well to maintain relationship?” ~ Lori
Reflection Questions
For personal reflection or group discussion
What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation?
What is your experience with infertility, in your own life or in a loved one?
What is one time that a dream was lost? What did you feel, and how did you respond?
What are some of the expectations put upon you by the culture or those in the Church? What do you do when you don't fit those expectations?
How can you love & support those living with infertility? If you experience infertility, what do you need from others?