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Episode 25. Moving in the Right Direction, Together

Episode 25. Moving in the Right Direction, Together

Episode 25 of This Whole Life podcast featuring Andy Norton and a conversation about behavioral activation and Integrated Pathfinding

“Man cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself.”
~ St. John Paul II


It sounds so simple: do good things that make me healthy, happy, & holy and avoid the things that stop me from thriving. But so often we feel like St. Paul: "For I do not do the good I want, but I do the evil I do not want" (Romans 7:19). How do we practically move toward greater wholeness in our thoughts and actions, and how do we make that journey in the context of a marriage?

Andy Norton joins This Whole Life to share a valuable tool that he and his wife developed called Integrated Pathfinding. Integrated Pathfinding is based on a therapeutic intervention called Behavioral Activation, which they adapted with a foundation of faith into a weekly process for the good of their marriage and family life.

If you have a desire to follow the Lord more consistently and to be more connected to your spouse in the process, you'll love this conversation and the resource it offers!

Be sure to scroll down for a pdf step-by-step guide to Integrated Pathfinding.

Andy Norton is a passionate and mission-driven Catholic man with a desire to foster wholeness and holiness in the lives of God's people. He worked in ministry for 14 years, including evangelization work with FOCUS and NET Ministries. Andy is a graduate of the Franciscan University of Steubenville with a Master's in Theology from the Augustine Institute. He now works as a Production Support Developer and lives in Eagan, Minnesota with his wife Sarah and their 4 children.

Show Notes

Downloadable step-by-step guide to Integrated Pathfinding ⬇️

  • “Man cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself.”
    ~ St. John Paul II

  • “God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there. There is no such thing.”
    - C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity


Revisit Episode 22, “Is Self-Care Christian?” for a reminder of authentic self-care:
attending to my needs in order to return to my responsibilities energized and ready to give generously.

Challenge By Choice

Practice Integrated Pathfinding with your spouse.

  • Use the pdf guide above for a step-by-step process of Integrated Pathfinding

  • If you’re not married, use the framework of Integrated Pathfinding as a form of Behavioral Activation

  • How are you more able to love authentically and give generously through Integrated Pathfinding?